tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post114876509927482008..comments2023-11-03T09:36:22.100-04:00Comments on In From the Cold: Should There be Any Debate?George Smileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07049707648660651119noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-1148912369808607312006-05-29T10:19:00.000-04:002006-05-29T10:19:00.000-04:00As long as these people remain in power as they ha...As long as these people remain in power as they have been since 1979, given the consonance among their desires, given their stated national mission (since 1979), their stated immediate goals to accomplish that mission, I'd say we ought to do them the respect of taking them seriously.<BR/><BR/>They want a world without the great shaitan, and without Israel. They have said this for 27 years.<BR/><BR/>They are not us. Thoughts of deterrence, and that they don't want to committ national suicide are arrogant western 'everyone has our values' imposition of outcome on 'other'.<BR/><BR/>They are other. Take them seriously. They do not have our values.<BR/><BR/>Nothing will deter them from creating a bomb, and nothing will change their national mission.<BR/><BR/>Therefore the only thing which can stop a regional nuclear war, or certainly a huge regional is NO MULLAHS.<BR/><BR/>Small price to pay compared to the other priceEpaminondashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04811906954763827459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-1148869146363517402006-05-28T22:19:00.000-04:002006-05-28T22:19:00.000-04:00Personally, I don't have a problem iwth a nuclear ...Personally, I don't have a problem iwth a nuclear Iran. It is just under the current regime that we must resist it.<BR/><BR/>As a real precondition, we should demand the return of our sovreign territory that was stolen in 1979, a.k.a. our embassy.Elam Bendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107109112835556039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-1148832933982137782006-05-28T12:15:00.000-04:002006-05-28T12:15:00.000-04:00What about the glaring contradiction of multilater...What about the glaring contradiction of multilateralism vs unilateralism that direct talks between the US and Iran might entail? Someone said it far better than me, probably at realclearpolitics, but the fact remains- if we talk, then we become responsible (they won't be, since they're not us appears to be the default position). What if we have to go to war after that?<BR/><BR/>Everyone wants to blame us until they need us. Now they're trying to pass the buck since their impotent bribery has failed.<BR/><BR/>Words are cheap. Actions count. Modern conceptions of diplomacy, invested in bodies such as the UN, is found wanting on many counts.sunguh5307https://www.blogger.com/profile/03065221995872684185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-1148782456632308032006-05-27T22:14:00.000-04:002006-05-27T22:14:00.000-04:00The problem with dealing with Iran's government is...The problem with dealing with Iran's government is that they are decievers and none of them are going to deal in truth, they have said so in public, that they will decieve us. They have also said in public that they will destroy Israel and see the downfall of the United States...soon.<BR/><BR/>There is no talking or "dealing with" people like that.<BR/><BR/>Papa Ray<BR/>West Texas<BR/>USAPapa Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11454201360366303944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-1148776055245451202006-05-27T20:27:00.000-04:002006-05-27T20:27:00.000-04:00what I don't see anyone addressing is why does Ira...what I don't see anyone addressing is why does Iran have to stop their nuclear program (your first point)? why should they not have energy independence? U.S. keeps talking weapons and Iran keeps talking peaceful uses. OK, so nobody believes 'em -- just make your second point - IAEA inspections the primary point. same thing we did in Iraq (more or less). we don't have to start another war, just make sure they are being good world citizens. so what of it? and why are direct talks necessary? what's wrong with diplomatic back channels? getting nowhere? just talk to the court of world opinion a little more and insist on resuming inspections. can someone explain the problem with that?tomawesomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10670527457029826074noreply@blogger.com