tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post5016173999283349294..comments2023-11-03T09:36:22.100-04:00Comments on In From the Cold: Low and SlowGeorge Smileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07049707648660651119noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-8950698821873963812012-06-07T08:55:05.156-04:002012-06-07T08:55:05.156-04:00Need a low and slow aircraft? Try a blimp. They fl...Need a low and slow aircraft? Try a blimp. They fly around 60 mph with an ideal height of 600-1000 feet. They did a cracker jack job of escorting subs in WW2.Keith1954https://www.blogger.com/profile/08433244619408478492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-75053854161686627282010-09-13T22:20:36.711-04:002010-09-13T22:20:36.711-04:00How about pulling some A-10's out of the boney...How about pulling some A-10's out of the boneyard for this ? They have long loiter,slow stall speed and they are already paid for.Keep the F-15's & 16's for the serious stuff.CT Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009994376714215945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-82928801236111636122010-09-13T13:44:23.032-04:002010-09-13T13:44:23.032-04:00Something like an A-37 would do it nicely.Just ask...Something like an A-37 would do it nicely.Just ask the Colombiansgatorbaithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10197929713064198686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-3920434859985552602010-09-12T13:38:30.498-04:002010-09-12T13:38:30.498-04:00Civil air patrol can't and shouldn't be ab...Civil air patrol can't and shouldn't be able to shoot aircraft down, so they should stay out of that loop. <br /><br />Ed is right; sometimes these things are detected late, and you need a fast mover to get there quickly. Fast movers can intercept and hand off to helos or something similar, or just set up a nice, old fashioned gunnery pattern on the thing with your wingman and have fun tracking him. A fabric crop duster laden with a bio agent 25 ft. off the water moving 60 mph could get pretty close to an aircraft carrier if they weren't paying very close attention. Most of the problems with this is headwork; it is out of the box thinking like Ed said and very few people have any original tactical thoughts these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-31267401815101738822010-09-12T09:02:36.976-04:002010-09-12T09:02:36.976-04:00A few Brazilian SuperTurcanos would be useful in t...A few Brazilian SuperTurcanos would be useful in that role.<br /><br />While you're add it, order up some A1 Skyraiders for the infantry.sykes.1https://www.blogger.com/profile/10954672321945289871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-28330126932827226442010-09-12T07:23:57.773-04:002010-09-12T07:23:57.773-04:00Do we need a slower interceptor (aircraft) or do w...Do we need a slower interceptor (aircraft) or do we need a targeting system that can intercept slow movers?Storms24https://www.blogger.com/profile/14360242925876169578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-29908471261903348272010-09-12T06:53:18.638-04:002010-09-12T06:53:18.638-04:00A job for an armed T-6 or T-45 type of aircraft. S...A job for an armed T-6 or T-45 type of aircraft. Some RAF Hawks have a centreline 30 mm cannon pod for weapons training and some (T-1As)were fitted with sidewinders under the wings during the Cold War as short range point defence fighters using Tornado F2s to guide them to eyeball range.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358349301959327747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-22624970630645303112010-09-12T02:53:58.201-04:002010-09-12T02:53:58.201-04:00The low slow targets have been a problem since the...The low slow targets have been a problem since the days we gave up prop aircraft. Modern jet inteceptors simply can't do the job.<br /><br />I ran into a customs pilot in the 1980s who came up with an ingenious, low cost solution to tail drug runners flying to Florida. Through the drug seizure law, they obtained a free Cessna Citation. For a radar they were given the losing prototype radar from the F-16 program which they grafted on. And they somehow got a decent FLIR. Turned out to be an excellent platform for intercepting planes flying up from Colombia.<br /><br />A similar effort was done by the Navy in the early 1960s in Viet Nam where some night time low-slow targets had been detected. They used an AD-4Q (prop plane)from one of our elint squadrons converted temporarily for air intercept work.Corky Boydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16363812378536729410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-79084473840180751862010-09-11T15:13:04.327-04:002010-09-11T15:13:04.327-04:00Interesting....I used to chase cruise missiles out...Interesting....I used to chase cruise missiles out of Pax when they were being tested, and any time that we had something unmanned flying like that we always had them wired such that the chase aircraft could press a button and destroy them if necessary. I wonder why this failsafe was not employed? <br /><br />Intercepting very slow aircraft can be difficult in a fighter; first of all you can't get that slow; second some slow movers even have canvas wings and small engines that don't show up very well on your radar or FLIR. You can always get them with 20 mm and the old eye balls, though, no problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-18295911808549304442010-09-11T10:26:30.036-04:002010-09-11T10:26:30.036-04:00Thinking "outside the box" is always a g...Thinking "outside the box" is always a good exercise. The pros and cons here initially make this look like a very bad idea and very ineffective. <br /><br />Interceptors need to be fast because they can't be everywhere in anticipation of the need. They deploy and then must move rapidly to the point of contact. <br /><br />They require maintenance and skilled operators. That means large numbers. <br /><br />They are single mission and not capable of being re-roled into other tasks. <br /><br />You lose the on-scene judgment factor that a manned interceptor provides. <br /><br />It is creative thinking, but I pray that it doesn't go much further.Ed Rasimushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13667325554289268659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-66778500699522055492010-09-11T05:17:52.797-04:002010-09-11T05:17:52.797-04:00The Cubans seemed to have no problems with those t...The Cubans seemed to have no problems with those two props they shot down a few years ago.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13642228725661059539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-14442827350334010622010-09-11T05:16:07.430-04:002010-09-11T05:16:07.430-04:00The Cubans seemed to have no problems with those t...The Cubans seemed to have no problems with those two props they shot down a few years ago.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13642228725661059539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-13917437301310693032010-09-10T20:44:42.576-04:002010-09-10T20:44:42.576-04:00Sounds like another mission for the Civil Air Patr...Sounds like another mission for the Civil Air Patrol.BuckeyeSandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11887248816391317117noreply@blogger.com