tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post349044049848746396..comments2023-11-03T09:36:22.100-04:00Comments on In From the Cold: The Crowded SkiesGeorge Smileyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07049707648660651119noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-54180061797933906252013-12-17T23:47:15.174-05:002013-12-17T23:47:15.174-05:00I was reading a page I noticed while reading some ...I was reading a page I noticed while reading some NAVSEA information regarding diesel electric submarines versus nuclear powered submarines. I found it interesting because one of the statement on the page stated something interesting related to the China economic zone:<br /><br />"Despite keeping most of the details secret, some potential targets of these new ASW capabilities realized the danger they were in. One reason China wants to keep American naval forces out of their economic zone (370 kilometers from the coast, an area which does not bar foreign warships) is so that Chinese diesel electric subs can train without being stalked by American subs, surface ships, and aircraft looking for realistic practice tracking Chinese boats. At the same time the U.S. Navy has lost the full use of its most effective underwater anti-submarine training area (a well mapped and instrumented area off southern California) because environmentalist activists have convinced judges that the use of active sonar in this training area is harmful to some species of aquatic animals. So going after potential targets off their coasts is more important than ever."<br /><br />Source: http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20131216.aspxsillylilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11456730689910645654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-3365498139969519212013-12-17T23:45:30.938-05:002013-12-17T23:45:30.938-05:00I was reading a page I noticed while reading some ...I was reading a page I noticed while reading some NAVSEA information regarding diesel electric submarines versus nuclear powered submarines. I found it interesting because one of the statement on the page stated something interesting related to the China economic zone:<br /><br />"Despite keeping most of the details secret, some potential targets of these new ASW capabilities realized the danger they were in. One reason China wants to keep American naval forces out of their economic zone (370 kilometers from the coast, an area which does not bar foreign warships) is so that Chinese diesel electric subs can train without being stalked by American subs, surface ships, and aircraft looking for realistic practice tracking Chinese boats. At the same time the U.S. Navy has lost the full use of its most effective underwater anti-submarine training area (a well mapped and instrumented area off southern California) because environmentalist activists have convinced judges that the use of active sonar in this training area is harmful to some species of aquatic animals. So going after potential targets off their coasts is more important than ever."<br /><br />Source: http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20131216.aspxsillylilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11456730689910645654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-32950271519836447222013-12-10T12:02:11.134-05:002013-12-10T12:02:11.134-05:00Concur that this will end in a shootdown... Sooner...Concur that this will end in a shootdown... Sooner rather than later now that the ROKs have jumped in...Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-88689888100432529612013-12-06T19:41:26.138-05:002013-12-06T19:41:26.138-05:00Another de facto 'bow' to China... sighAnother de facto 'bow' to China... sigh Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-30466862285212304392013-12-02T20:39:27.664-05:002013-12-02T20:39:27.664-05:00Spook86, thank you for your informative update. I ...Spook86, thank you for your informative update. I would add only one item. The PRC's regional proxy is likely the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK). <br /><br />It's still anyone's guess what outrageous (but China sanctioned) response North Korea will surprise the sleeping Obama adminsitration with in coming months. Mark my words, and standby. Vigilishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05051789616490005367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10820485.post-21452113209202295122013-12-02T17:18:34.291-05:002013-12-02T17:18:34.291-05:00With due respect, the "cheap" option was...With due respect, the "cheap" option was to just instruct U.S. airlines to ignore the ADIZ. The Obama administration couldn't manage that, so why would we expect a military response?<br /><br />Japan and South Korea have been hung out to dry. The PLA will note our weakness.<br /><br />I fear this will end in bloodshed.<br />Neilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01039999711990701720noreply@blogger.com